Shaw said that people are fed up with high level criminality that imposes what he calls a corruption tax.
"I don't think in my entire adult life I've ever seen a more crying need among angry Illinois residents for reform. I've never seen a groundswell of frustration that is more pressing than now. It's like we have 13 million Illinois residents who like Howard Beale in that movie, 'Network,' are mad as hell, and not gonna take it anymore," said Andy Shaw, Better Government Asssociation.
You can see our entire interview Sunday morning during our news that begins at 8 a.m.